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« on: October 06, 2007, 08:35:51 PM »

...and Earl Van Dyke Sextet. Bumped across this clip on youtube and thought it was fun.
Enjoy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ufwxXvNy5DE
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2007, 10:37:49 PM »

Great video.  I love youtube.  You can search old videos.  Not to get off the subject but I found the video for "Will You Love Me Tomorrow" by the Shirelles.  Love that song and enjoyed watchin' that.  I think Shirley Alston Reeves is awesome.  But yea instead of makin' a new thread I'll just post this motown clip here.  Four Tops vs. The Temptations.  Love the Four Tops...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN-5jGTWCm4

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2007, 06:28:31 AM »

HI,
I love it......but I couldn't find old videos in which I can see all the musicians oder some famous bassplayers......really mad I think...
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2007, 01:00:04 PM »

not tryin' to hijack the thread, just thought I'd post another youtube video.  This guy "Jamersonshook" is pretty good.  Check out his Jamerson lines....

http://www.youtube.com/user/jamersonshook

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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2007, 02:37:21 PM »

not tryin' to hijack the thread, just thought I'd post another youtube video.  This guy "Jamersonshook" is pretty good.  Check out his Jamerson lines....

Yea I've corresponded with that guy. I met him thru Talkbass.com. He does a great job, IMO.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2007, 02:39:37 PM »

Here he's take on 'My Girl'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJHU5h5Wx1I
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2007, 02:43:02 PM »

One more. This is one of my favorite Motown tunes and such a great bassline. Not sure if this was Babbitt or Jamerson's work but whichever one its perfect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk49Yv2oKvE
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2007, 03:15:57 PM »

Yea, he's good.  He's got "The Hook" down.  No way I could do that with 1 finger.  Not even 2 or 3 in that case  :D

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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2007, 11:30:10 AM »

how does he get it to sound so clean?  It is a fretted bass right?  Does it have anything to do with flatwound strings?  I have a fretless jazz copy with flatwounds and when I play it, it sounds good (no fret buzz).  Before, the neck was fretted and I could hear the buzzing sound.  Maybe it was just my playing (beginner) or maybe the neck/bridge needed adjusting.  I replaced with a fretless neck and it's just feels nicer to me.  I  had roundwound strings when I had the fretted neck.  Just wonderin' cause this guys lines just sound amazing to me.

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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2007, 01:27:07 PM »

I did correspond with him and asked him but I'll be damaned if I can remember what he's using. I can check when I get home.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2007, 01:31:45 PM »

I seen a reply on one of his videos and he has the Jamerson setup.  Said high action and labella flatwound strings.  And he uses a pencil eraser cut in 2 under the bridge cover.  My issue with the fretted neck I had was when I pressed down, no buzz, its when I would lift off I would get the buzz.

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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2007, 04:54:20 PM »

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My issue with the fretted neck I had was when I pressed down, no buzz, its when I would lift off I would get the buzz.

Sounds like you might need to play around with the truss rod.
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2007, 05:13:03 PM »

Yea, I'm sure it was somethin' to do with the bridge and truss rod.  My MIM standard P-BASS (sold it) I didn't really have that problem.  Did a little though.  I'm gonna give it another try as I have a bass I'm puttin together right now.  I've got the alder body (3 tone sunburst), MIM fender neck, tortoise pickguard, chrome bridge/pickup covers, flatwound strings, and thumb rest.  I have $150 in this.  My friend bought my fender p-bass from me for 450. I paid 459 online and its new, as I only had it 3 weeks.  So, all I need is pickups, pots, and jack then I'll be ready to go.  Since I have no clue how to wire things I might just pay retail and go ahead and let the store set it up for me too truss rod/bridge adjustments. My main reason for sellin' the MIM bass was to try and pocket a little money and have a 62 lookalike.  So hopefully I wont have to add too much more to the $150

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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2007, 06:44:35 PM »

Hey there - Pedro pointed me over here, hope I can help with any q's.

My bass is a 62 reissue "Crafted in Japan" bass, with EMG active pickups, Labella Deep Talkin Bass strings, a high action, a strip of pencil eraser wedged under the bridge cover close to the saddles, recorded straight into my PC using a cheap cable, no EQ or FX. To get the attack (almost pick-like) on the bass that some Motown mixes have, a limiter helps if it's just clipping the peaks - I'll dust off my rack limiter sometime and see if I can post an example on youtube. The EMG's have more low end than stock Fenders, and this would need EQ'ing out to get me closer to the holy grail of Motown's mixes.

I hope to put more of Bob's lines up there at some point - I've been listening to and loving the bass on Midnight Train to Georgia since I was a little kid, so I hope Bob doesn't mind if I have a go!

Bob's playing is just awesome - I hope to see him recognised and credited properly, just like JJ - I'd LOVE to have a full discography of his work and still find it difficult to believe that no-one has documented all those wonderful sessions properly yet.

Best wishes to all - this is a great place for bass!



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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2007, 08:23:43 PM »

Active pickups? I'm really surprised. Anyhoo, I'd be curious jshook about any tips you might have for replicating that sound live. And thanks again for the clips. Its a lot easier to appreciate just how great Jamerson and Babbitts bass work is when you can hear it straight out like that.

My $.02.
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